<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
	xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/"
	>

<channel>
	<title>Coevolving Innovations &#187; squashed</title>
	<atom:link href="http://coevolving.com/blogs/index.php/archive/tag/squashed/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://coevolving.com/blogs</link>
	<description>... in Business Organizations and Information Technologies</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Thu, 19 Jan 2012 01:40:25 +0000</lastBuildDate>
	<language>en</language>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1</generator>
<atom:link rel="hub" href="http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com"/><atom:link rel="hub" href="http://superfeedr.com/hubbub"/><cloud domain='coevolving.com' port='80' path='/blogs/?rsscloud=notify' registerProcedure='' protocol='http-post' />
		<item>
		<title>Philosophers squashed, discussed and read</title>
		<link>http://coevolving.com/blogs/index.php/archive/philosophers-squashed-discussed-and-read/</link>
		<comments>http://coevolving.com/blogs/index.php/archive/philosophers-squashed-discussed-and-read/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 17:19:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>daviding</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[philosophy]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[clausewitz]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[dreyfus]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[heidegger]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[machiavelli]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[philosophers]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[squashed]]></category>

		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://coevolving.com/blogs/index.php/archive/philosophers-squashed-discussed-and-read/</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[There's alternatives to sitting and reading philosophy.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- RSPEAK_STOP --> <a href='http://wr.readspeaker.com/webreader/webreader.php?cid=ec34708b6af2bd314e8382b3a91c3f79&t=wordpress_free&url=http://coevolving.com/blogs/index.php/archive/philosophers-squashed-discussed-and-read/&title=Philosophers squashed, discussed and read' onclick='readpage(this.href, 112); return false;'> <img src='http://graphics.readspeaker.com/images/wr/listen_en_us.gif' style='border-style: none;' alt='Listen with webreader'></a><div id='WR_112'></div> <!-- RSPEAK_START --> <p>When I can&#8217;t figure out where an author &#8220;is coming from&#8221;, I look at the list of references.  Sometimes, this leads to philosophy.  The best way to learn philosophy is a slow path of discussion in a seminars.  For people with less time, I&#8217;ve discovered the <a href="http://www.btinternet.com/~glynhughes/squashed/index.htm" title="btinternet.com/~glynhughes/squashed/index.htm">web version of Glyn Hughes&#8217; <em>Squashed Philosophers</em></a> books.</p>
<p>Is this a reasonable way to read philosophy?  Hughes <a href="http://www.btinternet.com/~glynhughes/squashed/about.htm" title="btinternet.com/~glynhughes/squashed/about.htm">comments</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>Philosophers are generally appallingly bad writers and you&#8217;re after ideas, not precise words.</p></blockquote>
<p>Hughes suggests that you might be able to pass an exam by reading <em><a href="http://www.btinternet.com/~glynhughes/squashed/index.htm" title="btinternet.com/~glynhughes/squashed/index.htm">Squashed Philosophers</a></em>, although for <em><a href="http://www.btinternet.com/~glynhughes/squashed/divines.htm" title="btinternet.com/~glynhughes/squashed/divines.htm">Squashed Divines</a></em> and <em><a href="http://www.btinternet.com/~glynhughes/squashed/writers.htm" title="btinternet.com/~glynhughes/squashed/writers.htm">Squashed Writers</a></em>, you would really need to access the original texts.</p>
<p>In addition, the original texts of many philosophers are translations, and there are often multiple translations from which to choose.<span id="more-112"></span></p>
<p><a href="http://www.btinternet.com/~glynhughes/squashed/clausewitz.htm" title="btinternet.com/~glynhughes/squashed/clausewitz.htm">Clausewitz&#8217;s <em>On War</em></a> &#8212; which I&#8217;ve never really considered as a philosophical work &#8212; was written in 1830 in German.  The 1873 translation into English by J. J. Graham is available <a href="http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/1946" title="gutenberg.org/etext/1946">on Project Gutenberg</a> and <a href="http://www.clausewitz.com/CWZHOME/VomKriege2/ONWARTOC2.HTML" title="clausewitz.com/CWZHOME/VomKriege2/ONWARTOC2.HTML">on clausewitz.com</a> . <a href="http://www.clausewitz.com/CWZHOME/WhichTrans.html#Rec" title="clausewitz.com/CWZHOME/WhichTrans.html#Rec">Christopher Bassford compares the various versions</a>, highlighting that translators have their own philosophical foundations.  Hughes re-edited the 1908 F. N. Maude version, saying that it was less than 1/10th the length of Graham&#8217;s version.</p>
<p>Business readers may also be interested in the <a href="http://www.btinternet.com/~glynhughes/squashed/machiavelli.htm" title="btinternet.com/~glynhughes/squashed/machiavelli.htm"><em>Squashed Philosopher</em>&#8216;s version of Machiavelli&#8217;s <em>The Prince</em></a>, published 1520 &#8212; in Italian, if not Latin!  Hughes used the 1908 W. K. Marriott translation (also available <a href="http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/1232" title="gutenberg.org/etext/1232">on Project Gutenberg</a> and <a href="http://www.constitution.org/mac/prince00.htm" title="constitution.org/mac/prince00.htm">at the Constitution Society</a>), with reference to commentary by Edward Dacre in 1640.</p>
<p>Another less painful way of reading philosophy is the illustrated (comic book version), as the <a href="http://www.iconbooks.co.uk/topic_list.cfm?topic=Philosophy" title="iconbooks.co.uk/topic_list.cfm?topic=Philosophy"><em>Introducing &#8230;</em> series by Icon Books.</a>  When my sons were all under 16 years of age, I brought home a copy of <a href="http://www.iconbooks.co.uk/book.cfm?isbn=1-84046-088-1" title="iconbooks.co.uk/book.cfm?isbn=1-84046-088-1"><em>Introducing Heidegger</em></a>, which they all read.  This led to some really interesting dinnertime conversations.</p>
<p>As my eyes get worse, I&#8217;m reading less, and have taken to listening to audio.  Back in 2001, I learned a lot about Heidegger by listening to recordings of <a href="http://socrates.berkeley.edu/%7Ehdreyfus/185_f07/html/Index.html" title="socrates.berkeley.edu/%7Ehdreyfus/185_f07/html/Index.html">Hubert Dreyfus&#8217; Phil 185 class at Berkeley</a>.  Six years ago, it was revolutionary to have digital audio on the Internet.  I see that the infrastructure at Berkeley has now caught up, and <a href="http://webcast.berkeley.edu/course_details.php?seriesid=1906978475" title="webcast.berkeley.edu/course_details.php?seriesid=1906978475">MP3 audio for the Fall 2007 classes is downloadable from webcast.berkeley.edu</a>.  I don&#8217;t claim to have ever read <em>Being and Time,</em> but I&#8217;m generally in line with <a href="http://dreydegger.org" title="dreydegger.org">Dreyfus&#8217; reading of Heidegger</a>.</p>
<p>While discussion is best, I also see that an recording of someone reading Machiavelli&#8217;s <a href="http://www.archive.org/details/prince_librivox" title="archive.org/details/prince_librivox"><em>The Prince</em> is available on the Librivox collection of the Internet Archive</a>.  There doesn&#8217;t seem to be version of <em>On War</em> for Librivox, which suggested that the Squashed version may be the best alternative.</p>
<p>I used to listen to Dreyfus&#8217; classes while grocery shopping &#8230; but I&#8217;ve given that task to Diana in recent years.  I&#8217;m not only behind in my reading, but also my listening!</p>
 <!-- RSPEAK_STOP -->]]></content:encoded>
			<wfw:commentRss>http://coevolving.com/blogs/index.php/archive/philosophers-squashed-discussed-and-read/feed/</wfw:commentRss>
		<slash:comments>0</slash:comments>
		</item>
	</channel>
</rss>

