Services Science, Engineering and Management Conference, at IBM Palisades, October 6-7

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Steve Vargo & Bob Lusch, University of Hawaii and University of Arizona, "The Service-Dominant Mindset"

Fish or wheat:

  • Exchanges: competences for trading proteins for trading carbohydrates

Even in agriculture, work is done by services

  • Computers: informed matter with our intelligence
  • Service-dominant logic: focus on processes
  • Processes have no start and no end

What is a service?

  • Application of competencies, for the benefit of another entity
  • Sometimes done with goods, which we call appliances

What firms produce are not outputs, but instead inputs into another system

  • With scientific management, we treat humans like operant inputs, they're operand resources that do things
  • We sleep, work, and co-create
  • Consuming not the right idea, as they don't destroy, they co-create
  • Consumers assemble resources to co-produce

We've been on this journey from a goods-dominant logic to a transition, to service-dominant logic

  • Goods --> Services --> Service
    • Units of input, whereas service implies process
    • Service science, not services science
  • Products --> Offerings --> Experiences
  • Features / attributes --> Benefits --> Solutions
  • Equlibrium systems --> Dynamic systems --> Complex adaptive systems (learning and evolving)
  • Supply chain --> Value chain --> Value-creation networks or constellations

Big meta-questions (that Karl, from the Kauffman foundation brought up)

  • What is the theory of the firm?  What do firms do?
    • From producing outputs --> producing inputs
    • New institutions will evolve not just it's good for one firm, but when it's good for the whole system
    • Democracies work, because they're co-creation
  • How do firms do this?
  • Why do firms do this?
  • What scientific concepts and tools are dominant?
    • Towards discovery
  • (Could also ask what consumers do)


Value.  Definition of services, where there isn't a transfer of ownership.  Do have trouble when come to consumer goods.  Distinction between durable goods and consumable goods.

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