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[Roger Martin]
Howard Gardner has written 21 books
- Changing the idea so that there's multiple types of intelligence
- Harvard Graduate School of Education
- Macarthur Foundation award winner
[Hobbs Professor of Cognition and Education, Harvard University; Author of 20 books including Five Minds for the Future (Harvard Business School Press, March 2007) and Changing Minds: The Art and Science of Changing Our Own and Other People's Minds (Harvard Business School Press, 2004)]
[Howard Gardner]
Disclaimer: there are 8 or 9 intelligences, and five minds don't matter on intelligences
- Intelligences, as how the mind has evolved, and how it's organized now
- Instead of having a single computer in the skull, have 8 or 8
- IQ is language and logic
- Have spatial, informational
Five minds for the future is written as a policy-maker
- If I was a czar, and could have an influence over learning, there are five kinds of minds that I would nurture
Background as psychology and education
- These are minds that we should nurture in children
- But should also look for these in organizations, hiring
- In addition, should think about self: if don't have the mind, can you hire it, or nurture it in the self
Images: Clone, Ginal Kolata
- James Watson's genome has been published
Image: McDonald's, brands
Image: stock exchange
Image: intelligent machines
Image: virtual reality, Second Life
Image: lifelong learning
Image: auto-didacticism, for Dummies
Can't just treat people traditional knowledges, finish at age 20 to 30, and then rest on laurels
- What minds will be valuable in the future?
- Five minds
What was the greatest invention of hte last 2000 years?
- Said classical music, Mozart
- Gave this answer, because wanted to be quoted
More serious answer: the Disciplines (#1)
- Scholarly, but also arts, crafts
- We take disciplines totally for granted
- Disciplines are invented by human beings, over eons, and they might have never been invented
- A lot of things depend on the disciplined mind
Three sense of disciplines:
- 1. Keep working on stuff, it gets better
- 2. Thinking in scholarship
- 3. Becoming expert in something: an art, craft, profession
- All three senses of discipline are important
- If don't have discipline, will work with others
Basic argument for the disciplined mind
- Learning discipline is learning a language
- Listening to two experts, there's knowledge that you can't poach on
- Now, so much is interdisciplinary, so knowing one discipline isn't enough
For each discipline, false
- There's no cigar, i.e. knocking down a kewpie doll
Arthur Rubenstein, prodigy in 20s
- Became a sybarite: carouse, didn't practice
- Played with flourishes, but wasn't getting better
- In his 30s, got married, and decided to practice 4 to 6 hours
- If I don't practice for a day, I know it; if I don't practice for a week, the orchestra knows it; if I don't practice for a month, the audience knows it
Hyper-discipline: changing dinner table into a courtroom
- Shouldn't see everything through a disciplinary lens
- e.g. rational choice theory is useful, but not everything
2. The synthesizing mind
- Darwin: spent 5 years observing, then next 30 years communicating, then produced the Origin of the Species
- A book more valued the farther north you go, don't go too far south
All of us are inundated by information
- The synthesizing mind decides what to pay attention to, and what to ignore
- Puts things together so an individual can retain it
- Then the synthesis needs to be communicable to other people
- Murray Gell Man: In the 21st century, the most valuable mind will be the synthesizing mind
Psychology: nothing on the topic of synthesizing
- May be ways of teaching it, but no formal literature on this
- In book, talk about how this would work
If want to synthesize, need to know what will happen at the end
- Then where to start, where to go: what position papers, movie, state of the art
- Then what disciplines will you draw on, that is relevant?
- Then what method to bootstrap the synthesis, so that the synthesis off the shelf can be improved
- Don't wait until the last night: try provisional synthesis, and people will tell you what's missing
- Then here it is, and move on
Believe that there will be whole schools that will teach synthesis
- Bill Clinton: What presidents need is a synthesizing mind
Syntheses that don't work take in too much
- Are else they're eccentric, and don't fit
- Two books: Ken Wilber, Griesen
- What makes a good synthesis
3. Creative mind
- Einstein, Virginia Wolff,
- Have spent much of life thinking about what creativity is
Can't be creative unless have mastered a discipline
- Kid's drawings won't go into a museum
- Takes 10 years
- Also need to know what's been done before
- Can think outside the box, but need to know what the box is
Creator raises good questions, new questions, finds problems (not just solves)
- Creating is as much about institutional power as computing power
- Creative person has to be willing to step out and do thinks that haven't been done before
- When ridiculed, have to pick self up, and try something else
Freud came to America in 1909, couldn't stand U.S.
- Jung came, liked it, sent Freud a note
- Freud said: what did you leave out?
Creativity is judged by other people in the field
- In business, it's customers or shareholders
Not creative, failed:
- Ether
- Cold fusion
- Most best sellers
- Most biennial art shows
Two additional minds, wouldn't have written about them as a cognitive psychologist
- Respectful mind and ethical mind
Respectful mind: world is diverse, have contact with people around the world
- Need to tolerate people, but respectful mind embraces diversity, give people the benefit of the doubt
- At least as important in commerce and corporate life
Close, but no cigar:
- Kissing up, kicking down: Bob Sutton, anti-asshole
- Bad jokes, at the expense of others
- Respect with too many conditions: Kant, people aren't entitled to respect, no matter what they do
Promising instituitions:
- Commisions on Peace and Reconciliation: people being regretful for what they've done
- Artistic ping-pong: Mid-east orchestra with both sides playing, silk road orchestra
Changing minds: Have changed own mind on whether there should be penalties on where should allow scarves in France, and cartoons in Denmark
- Concluded cartoons shouldn't have been published: too much damage, to indulge a cartoonist
- In a world where everything is connected, we need to have a higher standard for what we share outside our own mind
5. Ethical mind
- Begins at day one, should have respect
- Disrespect from day one leads to bad
- Ethics: self as worker and a citizen
- Not just what are rights, but what are responsibilities (as a manager, lawyer, painter, physician), and how to I carry them out?
- Territory between courtesy and illegality: could get away with it legally, but decide not to
Good work project: Bill Damon, Czisentmahali
Three E's
- Excellent quality, good discipline
- Engaging, we like to do it
- Ethical: moral within work and citizenship
Want people to have all three E's, how do we engender this in young people?
- Martin Luther King, Gandhi
Young people know good work, but a large number know that they can't be good workers when they're young
- Their peers don't want to give up opportunities to get ahead
- Good, but not know
- Augustin: make me chaste, but not quite yet
No cigar:
- Work that is compromised, people getting away with what they can
- e.g. tests in education, not developing
- Bad work: Enron
- Perplexing: Lord John Brown of BP, thought of well earlier, but then questions arise about what the company doesn't do
- Full responsibility needs to have a grounded meaning
- Next book: Responsibility in the Workplace
Role of education in nurturing these minds?
- Bring attention to them, at conferences like these
- Know about examples, good and bad
- Be in personal contact with people with these types of minds
- Mentor, tormentors and anti-mentors
- Meaningful work and meaningful life: fragmentors, taking parts of people
- Even if have all five minds, not certain how to synthesize them
- Have to overthrow mentors, that's why a lot of Asians move to the west
Two questions:
- Aren't there other minds?
- How can you be in favour of censorship?
Martin Luther King: Education and discipline
Emerson: Character is more important than intellect
Changed mind: was studying, in an amoral way
- Can justify this as a scientist, but now a citizen, particularly in declining years
- Don't need more of best and brightest, need more people who are decent
[Questions]
How to formulate to create a common standard on the five minds, particularly on respectful and ethical?
- Difficult
- Respect is easier, because disrespect means not giving the other party the benefit of the doubt
- Universals: don't lie, don't hurt; then move to more specific
- Not bribery, but facilitation payments
12-year old daughter being challenged on short-term memory, not on creativity
- As parents, have to counter messages in society that we don't have sympathy
- Put some rules into effect
- Parents have to make an extra effort in the areas
- Patient, rewards don't come easily
- Children observe what is being done
- Sometimes choices of schools and teachers, and may exercise them
- But parents create antibodies for things we don't like
- As parents, also have to help kids, e.g. SATs
Can respective for others and ethical behaviour exist without self-respect
- Reciprocal: if you treat people respectfully, it creates ways they'll treat you
Consider the religious mind, and ethics?
- Deliberately avoided religion and spirituality, as enemies would find inflammatory
- Good work project, across disciplines
- Impressed by a lot of good workers who emphasize religious beliefs early in life, even when they're not practicising
- When religion turns to intolerance, then it's pathological
- In the U.S., there's a lot of pathological behaviour
Clarify that people don't receive respect?
- Dershowitz: if next to Hitler, would strangle him myself
- There are behaviours that trump respect
- Removal of people from positions of authority, and shunning signals that people no longer deserve respect
- Penalities have to be over a longer period of time
- Vivian Hailey: If you don't save, you can't play
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